Comments on: Good code looking good

By: Chance Shemanski

Chance Shemanski — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:10:09 +0000

The repayment term ranges from 1 to 30 days. They may print out long documents, when they really only need one of the pages.

By: dingdongtralala

dingdongtralala — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:27:46 +0000

Damn! I missed that. Can’t find any active torrents for the source code.

By: gnat

gnat — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:51:40 +0000

It was leaked onto the internet while the game was in development. Ah the memories.

By: dingdongtralala

dingdongtralala — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:41:50 +0000

Since when is Half-Life 2 open source? You got HL2 source code? GIMME THAT!!!!

By: MM

MM — Sun, 31 May 2009 20:15:31 +0000

So, you don’t use classes/inheritance at all MM? In the LD engine and game I use classes heavily, so I know what I’m talking about.
When I look at Quake 3 source code ( C ) and compare it with Half-Life 2 ( C++ ) its obvious for me that C code is much more clearer. It looks nice, ordered and well written. HL2 code is a mess. Much like LD code at this point (maybe not as much as HL2 though).

I also think Tribes 2 had repeating terrain, something in my head tells me that, I may have read about it. Still it would be interesting to see how they solved the multiplayer part.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 30 May 2009 12:36:37 +0000

gnat: I think its procedurally generated, not repeating (I could be wrong!), but the same still applies to MM’s case, how to stream collision/map data over time instead of loading everything at once (which is impossible if the terrain never ends).

By: teh_ham

teh_ham — Sat, 30 May 2009 09:16:11 +0000

So, you don’t use classes/inheritance at all MM?

By: gnat

gnat — Sat, 30 May 2009 07:13:13 +0000

The torque terrain is “limitless” because it simply repeats itself…

> “Before I started I got partially inspired by the article Making Wrong Code Look Wrong. I have no idea what the authors suggestions were in this article, its hard for me to understand his writing style (maybe cause he’s a programmer). Nevertheless the title of the article got me thinking.”

I Lol’d.

I also completely agree about C++ and a lot of its methodologies being moot. As for the “Oh, it’s great for libraries” argument: take a look at SDL or Allegro or OpenGL; these are all great and are pure C. Hell, Carmack was still coding straight C all the way up to and including Quake 3.

There’s a lot of tricks and shortcuts one can use in “dirty c” that are non-existent or difficult to implement in purely object oriented C++.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 30 May 2009 02:34:42 +0000

“Andrew: hmm but does this infinite map work in multiplayer?”

Yes. Tribes 2 is all about multiplayer (its a 3D game though, not 2D – but the principle should be the same I guess!).

The game is several years old now, but GarageGames (then Dynamix) built the Torque game engine for Tribes 2, so its much more advanced now.

I’m not that familiar with what GarageGames have on offer (I think you can buy an indie license for $100 US?) or what you’d need to buy/look at to see how it works, you’d probably need to ask them yourself.

And to clarify, yes it really was limitless terrain – they talked about it (this is even longer ago, in an interview some time), and from playing Tribes 2 myself, I never (nor anyone else for that matter) encountered an end to the terrain (if you’re that inclined to fly a plane in the same direction for ages).

I’ll also point out that Tribes 2 has awesome networking code (these guys are smart heh), but that’s another discussion

By: DARK AVENGER

DARK AVENGER — Fri, 29 May 2009 12:50:38 +0000

lol Michal , you’ve cracked me up