Comments on: Arrrrrrr!

By: Teqskater

Teqskater — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:54:07 +0000

Hello michal i think “every” part you described like the parot and captain is a part of the “pirate ship somehow” but the question is how are they connected. they will be connected in diffrent ways cause there are diffrent “pirate ships”.
o my god. i get a headache if i think to long about it. well anyway, it fascinates me

By: PHeMoX

PHeMoX — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:16:57 +0000

“@PHeMoX – if the loyalist is consciousness, so what’s the queen? I’m just asking, because I completely don’t get the queen, loyalist and pigeon ;E’

The loyalist is what’s causing the sudden changes of heart so to speak based on events. The queen is the one abstract thing that sort of should be something of a guideline to what’s supposed to happen. For example our society demands that people find a job, pay bills and so on, but also don’t kill. More the abstract rules I guess.

In my opinion the pigeon is just a pigeon, just like the pirate monkey is just a monkey. 😉

By: NightCabbage

NightCabbage — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:21:19 +0000

Hmmm I think the most interesting idea in all of this is the idea that you are not you, but a part of you.

You are the part that is aware of your own existence.

Does this part have contorl over the other parts?
Perhaps – but we don’t really know.

It could be that your consciousness asserts a certain amount of control over the other parts (instincts, thoughts, feelings, etc.)

Or maybe you are just observing what the other parts are doing.

By: Michal - Imposter

Michal - Imposter — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:12:24 +0000

“However, I’d like to state that this exercise is one in logic and I would be remiss if I let it go on that this is delving into something other than logic and reason, and this is why I think its lacking on its discussion of this topic.”

By: -shingo

-shingo — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:44:25 +0000

According to your first topic, I’d believe the tools would be your definition of the consciousness. As was said in the other topic, the conscious mind is only an “observer”, not effecting the whole, but merely noticing the changes that the whole as made.

The tools and map are where the data is inputed, from both inside sources (body) and outside sources (environment). The captain refers to a map and plots a course, the map had no choice in it but is still aware because of the marks. The tools are a nexus to the outside conditions as well, yet they are still only aware to the conditions and not in control. I feel this fits your description best in the previous post.

However, I’d like to state that this exercise is one in logic and I would be remiss if I let it go on that this is delving into something other than logic and reason, and this is why I think its lacking on its discussion of this topic.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:32:07 +0000

would consciousness equal awareness?

By: Skoskav

Skoskav — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:50:07 +0000

… would be the line-break xhtml tags.

By: Skoskav

Skoskav — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:44:21 +0000

Out of that model I don’t consider any of those specific objects as the consciousness. What I think is closest to describe it from that list would be the tags.

I see the consciousness as the combined impulses being sent through the synapses as various parts of the brain conducts work. It’s nothing that controls or observes, it’s just the collection of every result/output. If the math part of the brain is working on dividing 3 by 7, the output and all the steps you did getting those decimals would be placed in the consciousness array. The size of the consciousness would then be related to how many parts that were activated and how intensive they worked.

Perhaps in a Jolly Roger way I’d best describe the consciousness as the chantey between the pirates, with whoever are participating in it and how much spirit each of them are putting into it as the parts of the brain that gets “thought of.”

Though it’s probably not what MM was thinking of.

By: Filipo

Filipo — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:57:27 +0000

I don’t get everything, but I think that:
Queen – God
Rats – evil (or some satan-kind stuff, but probably it’s nothing like this);
Monkey – pain/suffering (?) or fear (because it’s alarming us);
Parrot – conscience (it’s affecting the captain’s decisions);
Chronicler – memory;
I think the captain may be… thoughts He’s doing everything, but controlled by all of the other parts (except the crew);
Crew – the reactions of the body (this must be wrong because there are two parts of the crew).
@PHeMoX – if the loyalist is consciousness, so what’s the queen? I’m just asking, because I completely don’t get the queen, loyalist and pigeon ;E
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But I still haven’t got the consciousness So this gotta be one of the Loyalist-Pigeon-Queen relationship according to my version…
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After a while of thinking I found out this:
I’m (almost) sure that Queen is God, so I have three choices:
-map and tools – it’s not that, it’s rather intelligence or this stuff)
-pigeon – what the hell is that?!
-loyalist – well, it seems to be the consciousness, but if Queen is God, so what’s the connection between them? Oh, perhaps the pigeon is something like praying? If the loyalist is consciousness indeed, everything may work… But is praying a part of us?

By: anon

anon — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:53:05 +0000

im a crackhead