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By: bigbossSNK

bigbossSNK — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:06:58 +0000

“If you find a valid reason not to eat, this will help you do that”
Valid reasons are the stepping stones of will power. If I don’t assign a goal to my actions, I lead a futile life. I might be able to endure pain, but if it’s just for the heck of it, that’s just an exercise of futility.
If you don’t have the will to change your life, you lead the path of least resistance.

By: Michal

Michal — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:53:13 +0000

I don’t believe in will power, it will come out in the article about conscious effort that you’ll see in a couple days. The thing is, you can convince the body to be on your side. If you find a valid reason not to eat or to be a geek:) it will help you do that. This is why anorexic people exist, they don’t use will power not to eat, they just don’t consider eating, and don’t. Haha lessons about productivity and fat-loss from anorexic people, that should be my next post.

By: bigbossSNK

bigbossSNK — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:08:27 +0000

“Yes, it is YOUR body that makes the decisions. But the control of that body by your conciousness is very limited. Your consciousness isn’t able to make clear decisions because it is always dependent on all the other body parts that you can’t control. Each decision is “filtered” by the other brain parts, the hormones and the genes. That is MM’s message, i think.”

You cannot control low level functions like autonomic system responses (body temperature, heart beat, hormone secretion (partially) etc). You CAN control all other high level functions like thought and decision making.
And there is a clear instance in which your argument falls apart at the seams. Consider a case where a person overcomes his hormonal and genetic programming. Like a junkie deciding to go cold turkey and get over his addiction, or when a man with violent behavior chooses to disregard his anger. In your hormonal or genetic programming model, these events cannot occur.
Both of these cases illustrate that you DO have control over your actions, actively regulating your own behavior.

By: lol

lol — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:27:28 +0000

О да, я маленькая обезьянка с колокольчиком на шее, которая имеет тенденцию околачиваться около телика и ничего не делать.

By: Shuger

Shuger — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:24:15 +0000

yv3 you can overcome those filters if you have strong will/determination. Every programmer has deadlines to meet. Have ever experienced one where your program isn’t working and you have to no time left?

If you haven’t, believe me, you can bring your body on the edge of auto destruction; from lack of sleep,lack of movement and eyes hurting like ***. Sure your body will protest but a deadline is more important ;).

The more you train the more you can overcome, ultimately you can become a geek 😉 No seriously overcoming physical needs is one thing that greatly helps you to stop living like your body says you, but like you want to. In the end you will realise that you need to do things your body wants anyway, but you’ll make them of your own will.
Like MM said body isn’t very smart. If you won’t limit how much you eat you’ll be in trouble. Some people just can’t realise it. They think that if they’re hungry they must eat to be healthy. The truth is eating less then you need is more healthy then eating more then you need. The question is: is your will strong enough to cope with the hunger.